| New Book looking at Psychosis from Nondual Perspective |
[May. 11th, 2012|07:17 pm] |
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Following is information on a book that I think members here may find very interesting:
Recent Research on Recovery from Schizophrenia Suggests that Nonduality is the Key to Making Sense of these Disorders Dr. Paris Williams, known for his groundbreaking research on people who have made full medication-free recoveries from schizophrenia (as mentioned in the New York Times), has just released a book, Rethinking Madness, that presents a serious challenge to the mainstream understanding and treatment of schizophrenia and other psychotic disorders. In Rethinking Madness, Williams documents how the recent domestic and international research (including studies conducted by the World Health Organization and the National Institute of Mental Health) suggests that full medication-free recovery from schizophrenia and other related psychotic disorders is not only possible, but may actually be the most likely outcome given the right conditions. Furthermore, the findings from Williams’ own research suggest that many individuals who recover do not simply return to their pre-psychotic condition, but actually undergo a profound positive transformation resulting in a sense of wellbeing and life competence that far exceeds that which existed prior to their psychosis. All of these findings fly directly in the face of the mainstream understanding of schizophrenia and psychosis, so it’s not surprising that as these research findings continue to emerge, we see the first stirrings of a fiery controversy that may very well continue to escalate until we are forced to consider a radical restructuring of the mental health care system and indeed the very foundation of our understanding of madness. In Rethinking Madness, Williams takes the plunge directly into the heart of this controversial topic. He begins by disentangling the complex web of research on schizophrenia, attempting to make sense of how it is that the mainstream understanding of schizophrenia has become so profoundly mistaken. He then goes about crafting an altogether new vision of madness—one that brings in the latest recovery research and integrates both Eastern and Western understandings of the mind to make sense of the findings of the emerging research. As this new vision unfolds, Williams suggests that we arrive at both some unsettling realizations and some very hopeful possibilities. On one hand, we are forced to recognize that our current mainstream paradigm of care may actually be causing more harm than benefit, both for those so diagnosed and also for their friends, family members, and society at large. On the other hand, we discover that those who find themselves struggling with these challenging disorders have a very high likelihood of moving on to meaningful and productive lives. Finally, in a compelling twist, we discover that those we often consider to be “mad” may very well be caught in a profound wrestling match with the very same core existential dilemmas with which we all struggle. Williams suggests that the real key to understanding these vexing experiences comes not from the findings of the latest brain research, but rather from the findings of human consciousness that have arisen from many years of introspective inquiry into the deepest layers of human experience—findings that have arisen from the Western existential movement over the past couple of hundred years as well as findings that have arisen from thousands of years of such inquiry within the nondual traditions of the East—particularly Buddhism, Taoism, and Advaita Vedanta. Rethinking Madness (Sky’s Edge Publishing) is available through Amazon.com and other channels. More information is available at www.RethinkingMadness.com Dr. Paris Williams works as a psychologist in the San Francisco Bay Area. He offers the rare perspective of someone who has experienced psychosis from both sides—as a researcher and psychologist, and as someone who has himself fully recovered after struggling with psychotic experiences. He can be reached at www.RethinkingMadness.com |
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| Adyashanti instructs on how to meditate |
[Jan. 18th, 2012|10:16 am] |
This article in today's Nonduality Highlights (Issue #4483, edited by Mark Otter today) contains a great article about meditation by Adyashanti, who is one of the clearest speakers on contemporary Nonduality practicing these days. His website is here if you want to check out more of his stuff or if you happen to live somewhere that he's giving satsang.
-- Dustin True meditation has no direction or goal. It is pure wordless surrender, pure silent prayer. All methods aiming at achieving a certain state of mind are limited, impermanent, and conditioned. Fascination with states leads only to bondage and dependency. True meditation is abidance as primordial awareness.
True meditation appears in consciousness spontaneously when awareness is not being manipulated or controlled. When you first start to meditate, you notice that attention is often being held captive by focus on some object: on thoughts, bodily sensations, emotions, memories, sounds, etc. This is because the mind is conditioned to focus and contract upon objects. Then the mind compulsively interprets and tries to control what it is aware of (the object) in a mechanical and distorted way. It begins to draw conclusions and make assumptions according to past conditioning.
In true meditation all objects (thoughts, feelings, emotions, memories, etc.) are left to their natural functioning. This means that no effort should be made to focus on, manipulate, control, or suppress any object of awareness. In true meditation the emphasis is on being awareness; not on being aware of objects, but on resting as primordial awareness itself. Primordial awareness is the source in which all objects arise and subside.
As you gently relax into awareness, into listening, the mind's compulsive contraction around objects will fade. Silence of being will come more clearly into consciousness as a welcoming to rest and abide. An attitude of open receptivity, free of any goal or anticipation, will facilitate the presence of silence and stillness to be revealed as your natural condition.
As you rest into stillness more profoundly, awareness becomes free of the mind's compulsive control, contractions, and identifications. Awareness naturally returns to its non-state of absolute unmanifest potential, the silent abyss beyond all knowing.
SOME COMMON QUESTIONS ABOUT MEDITATION
Q. It seems that the central instruction in True Meditation is simply to abide as silent, still awareness. However, I often find that I am caught in my mind. Is it OK to use a more directed meditation like following my breath, so that I have something to focus on that will help me to not get lost in my mind?
A. It is perfectly OK to use a more directed technique such as following your breath, or using a simple mantra or centering prayer, if you find that it helps you to not get lost in thought. But always be inclined toward less and less technique. Make time during each meditation period to simply rest as silent, still awareness. True Meditation is progressively letting go of the meditator without getting lost in thought.
Q. What should I do if an old painful memory arises during meditation?
A. Simply allow it to arise without resisting it or indulging in analyzing, judging, or denying it.
Q. When I meditate I sometimes experience a lot of fear. Sometimes it overwhelms me and I don't know what to do.
A. It is useful when experiencing fear in meditation to anchor your attention in something very grounding, such as your breath or even the bottoms of your feet. But don't fight against the fear because this will only increase it. Imagine that you are the Buddha under the Bodhi tree, or Christ in the desert, remaining perfectly still and unmoved by the body-mind's nightmare. It may feel very real but it is really nothing more than a convincing illusion.
Q. What should I do when I get an insight or sudden understanding of a situation during meditation?
A. Simply receive what is given with gratitude, without holding onto anything. Trust that it will still be there when you need it.
Q. I find that my mind is spontaneously forming images, almost like a waking dream. Some of them I like, while others are just random and annoying. What should I do?
A. Focus attention on your breathing down in your belly. This will help you to not get lost in the images of the mind. Hold the simple intention to rest in the imageless, silent source prior to all images, thoughts, and ideas.
- Adyashanti |
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| How to apply nondual awareness to the phenomenal world |
[Jun. 27th, 2011|08:38 am] |
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How to apply nondual awareness to the phenomenal world An exchange between Colin Drake and Hanumandass
Colin Drake: In my books -- http://nonduality.com/colindrake.htm -- I have a chapter that discusses the practical application of awakening, the gist of which is that one needs to be come completely established in 'awareness of, and identification with, awareness', after which life improves effortlessly. In response to a comment by Hanumandass that, "I’ve been struggling lately with how to apply nondual awareness to the phenomenal world," I wrote: As far as I have experienced one does not 'apply' this in the normal sense of the word for once one is established in this nondual awareness then this transforms one’s interactions with the physical world, requiring no conscious application: Awakening is immensely practical, Transformative rather than tactical. Existential angst does it banish, This fear and anxiety totally vanish. In this life unfolds with no personal ‘story’. Then manifestation appears in all its glory. When the world is met with a clear mind, So vivid and alive do it we find. Every sensation comes on so strong, When not filtered through what’s ‘right and wrong’. Thus seeing things as they truly ‘are’ Our opinionated ego cannot mar. When each moment is directly met, The past and future go we let. When the mind is still it does not distort, So our experience does not fall short. Sat-Chit-Ananda is another name, For the source and essence of this cosmic game. Sat – ‘What is’, Chit – Awareness of this, Ananda – of this awareness the Bliss. When awake we respond, rather than react, To each situation depending on the fact. Spontaneously does the mind our problems solve, If unclouded by self it will not ‘revolve’. So I urge you all to awake, Abandon self-image the great fake. Investigate, discover what’s really here, Leading to a life with no angst and fear! Hanumandass responded: Colin, Firstly, thank you from the bottom of my heart for contacting me. I was at work last night when I received your email. I was familiar with your name but not with your work. However I read your poem (I assume that's what it was) quite casually to begin with. By the time I was into the second or third line something profound happened, or rather didn't happen. I can only express it in terms of experience for I know no better avenue. Upon reading 'Awakening is Immensely Practical' I experienced two things simultaneously. The first being that everything in my mind, the whirling caldron of thoughts trying vainly to unravel nondual awareness, fell away. The second experience that sort of accompanied this falling away was that of a deep sense of freedom. Colin, I wish to neither underestimate the magnitude of what has happened over the last hours nor turn the events into some sort of divine impartation of grace from the beyond. What has happened to me is so horribly simple that I feel something of regret for the years of seemingly hopeless searching but at the same instant it's been the most spiritual REAL thing that has befallen me. Colin Drake interjected: No need for regret, the years of searching have brought you to the point where you were totally ready just needing a gentle push to fall off the cliff, letting go of all your supports. Exactly the same thing happened to me ... see 'Spiritual Experience' in Beyond The Separate Self. Also once you are awake the past is totally irrelevant! Hanumandass continued: Was it awakening? My mind is telling me no, that I ought to sort it all out and label it and find out if it's valid. Something is different now however. The mind continues its machinations, but it's like I am watching it all take place. And this is different because there is no effort to be a witness like it's a spiritual exercise. Surely I fall back into identification with the mind and the body but it only requires a remembrance of the awareness of it all to put me back into a serene witnessing of it ALL. Colin Drake responded: That's exactly what awakening is: becoming established in awareness of, and identification with, awareness itself. When the establishment is complete no remembrance will be required. Also you have hit the nail on the head in that awareness witnesses without any(one) 'doing' taking place. Thoughts and sensations just arise, exist, are 'seen', and subside back into awareness itself. Hanumandass continued: My mind says no, my body says no, but the core of my being says YES. It feels like home. It's as if nothing has 'happened' I have merely began to rest in a recognition of awareness without any effort on 'my' part. When I reflect upon it it seems like an experience. But what's different from my other experiences is this state of being, awareness of 'what is' as you have put it, is right here. It only seems like an experience when I think about it or try to remember it, etc. Colin Drake: That's absolutely right, 'awakening is not an experience' (see chapter of this name in A Light Unto Yourself) just a deep recognition of the fact that 'one is awareness'. This may engender many experiences, but freedom is obtained from cultivating, and honouring, this recognition. Also it is a true homecoming, to the place we can never leave, and actually have never left. For more of my thoughts on this see 'Home is Where the Heart is' in Beyond the Separate Self. Hanumandass: My point in relating all this to you is twofold. Firstly I would like to ask you for your analysis since my mind keeps telling me no. And secondly, I don't know what caused you to contact me but I want you to know whatever the reason was you have done something no one else has been able to, point me to awakening. Colin Drake: The mind will keep saying 'no' until the establishment has taken place, as it is not in its interests to say yes, having for long held the place of honour (and power) as who you (think you) are. See ‘Awareness of Awareness’ in A Light Unto Yourself, the second half of which deals specifically with this problem. Hanumandass: Also, I don't know how busy you are but if you have the time I would love to exchange emails with you concerning nonduality, Advaita Vedanta, Buddhism, and mainly this transformation that has taken place in my life among other things. Lastly I would like to have your permission to post the poem in question on my blog. It has obviously rocked my world and I feel it could do much for my readers. Again thank you for contacting me, it meant more than you probably intended, but will have lasting effects on me and those around me. I'm going to download your books in a couple of days also, the least I could do for you! Colin Drake: It didn't mean more than I intended, in fact the result is exactly what I intended, but it certainly meant more than I had hoped for or expected .... which is great! Hanumandass: Sorry for the lengthy email. I hope it's reassurance that your effort to bare the simplest message of all has had an effect! Sincerely, Hanumandass Colin Drake: What a wonderful e-mail, It's such a joy (and relief) to hear that there is one less mind running around searching for the unfindable. Unfindable of course because it is always here and can never be lost, just overlooked to our cost. I sent you my e-mail after discovering your 'struggles' on one of your blogs. Your reply shows a clear appreciation of awakening, which if you read it back carefully will answer all of your own questions! In Love and Peace, Colin The e-books of Colin Drake:
http://nonduality.com/colindrake.htm
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| On panic and desire |
[Feb. 1st, 2011|10:00 am] |
From Issue #4148 of the Nonduality Highlights come these two interesting excerpts edited by Mark Otter:Nothing matters so much that we should throw ourselves into a state of panic about it. No happening is so important that we should let ourselves be exiled from inner peace and mental calm for its sake.
— Paul Brunton Weak desires can be removed by introspection and meditation, but strong, deep-rooted ones must be fulfilled and their fruits, sweet or bitter, tasted.
—Nisargadatta Maharaj, from I Am That - Talks with Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj These two quotations reflect two sides of the same coin, I think. Many of my deepest-rootest desires are anchored in coping mechanisms I've developed in order to avoid feeling panic, depression, or other negative emotions.
The way I read these quotations is that we should deeply feel all of our emotions as they naturally occur and bubble up from within us, and in so doing we can avoid creating the sort of inner conflict that can lead directly to maladaptive or addictive behaviours.
If something bad or troublesome is happening in our life, then we should feel upset or angry about it—it's only natural! Then once the initial anger has been experienced, we can move on to do something constructive about the situation. But if instead of experiencing that natural anger we turn to some activity to dull that emotion (such as food, drugs, alcohol, excessive sex, the internet, etc.), then we doom ourselves to an endless feedback loop of unhealthy, mindless behaviours which do not provide any constructive solace to the original situation. What may have started as a necessary coping mechanism soon develops into an unhealthy addiction, and we end up worse off than we were before. |
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[Nov. 21st, 2010|03:07 pm] |
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He who knows, no words are necessary. He who does not know, no words will suffice. |
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| Leo Hartong, Part 1 |
[Nov. 12th, 2010|01:39 pm] |
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| | Variations 11-15 - Bach (András Schiff) | ] | I'm reading for the first time a classic text of modern-day nonduality from 2001 called Awakening to the Dream: The Gift of Lucid Living by Leo Hartong. I'm not completely sure exactly where he fits into the nonduality family tree with folks like John Wheeler, Tony Parsons, Nathan Gill, Bob Adamson, and Wayne Liquorman, but he's in there somewhere. Our friend Jerry Katz reviewed the book early in its life and predicted it to become a classic. It's so incredibly well-written and easy to understand that it's easy to see why he thought that. (Incidentally, Gilbert Schultz's podcast Urban Guru Café has an episode featuring Leo here.)
I thought I might post a number of what I think are the most lucid excerpts from the book as I go through it. Here's the first one, from an early chapter on page 28:Instead of directly seeing what is, the seeker continues to wait for a future event of enlightenment, not admitting that he's already – and always has been – home. He often tries to anticipate what it would be like to reach a total and final understanding in which God and the universe reveal their secrets. In doing so he overlooks the fact that his mind is both part of and appearing in this universe and, thus, is not qualified to comprehend it. The preceding forms a key part of Hartong's thesis for the book, and I find it to be a pretty fundamental tenet of basic advaita and nonduality. It expresses that there is but one. All is one, and whatever we perceive as the separate personality in ourselves that needs to become enlightened is, in fact, still part of the same "one." So to "think" that there's "someone" requiring "enlightenment" is in fact a false proposition. He continues:Giving up one's expectations in favor of a willingness to simply accept what is may create a vacuum filled with surprising alternatives. For instance, it might be recognized that finding does not come from seeking, but that it may be revealed through giving up the search; that it is not something to see, but the seeing itself; that cherished beliefs might be unmasked as conceptual obstacles, and spiritual practices may turn out to be a way of avoiding a direct seeing into the heart of the matter. Whoa!!! Hello! Way to knock us off our self-aggrandized perches as "spiritual aspirants," Leo! He moves towards wrapping up this sentiment as follows:This direct seeing exposes the illusion of a separate seeker who can arrive at 'destination enlightenment' somewhere in the future. Consequently, the seeking and the seeker are both annihilated in the realization that he is already home.
To the exhausted seeker I would like to say, 'Drop the search and drop your concepts. Stop looking for your ass. Just sit down and relax.' Letting go of your preconceived notions could suddenly shift your attention from the far-off horizon at which you gaze in anticipation of a grand and extraordinary event and reveal the wonder that exists right in front of, behind, and in your own eyes. Nice wrap up to some good old, present-moment mindfulness right there. The book continues to go deeper from there. I'll post some more excerpts from it as I go along. I'd also love to hear if this resonates with anybody, and/or if it frames nonduality in a clearer way for you than you might have heard in the past. I just find Hartong so clear and easy to understand when I read him, it drastically simplifies the whole notion of nonduality for me. |
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| Bill Rishel on experiencing the moment |
[Oct. 25th, 2010|08:49 am] |
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| | Alfonsina - Bobo Stenson | ] | From Issue 4054 of the Nonduality Highlights, editor Mark Otter included this interesting bit about experiencing the now by settling into the moment-by-moment sensations that occur. Very interesting and helpful insights, I thought.It was a happy realization for me, when I realized that I could "escape anything" by simply being in the immediacy of now. While that may sound "escapist", it is actually the opposite, as what is immediate in this moment is the only truth. What I realized was that by attending strictly to the "sensations" in the moment there was no way that "thought could get to me".
Regarding "sensations" above, recently it has occurred to me that I should emphasized more that when I speak of the "immediacy of the moment" I mean strictly the "sensations" as experienced in the moment, Nothing More! Each moment a new set of sensations, which are always changing. Nothing adds up, nothing combines, each moment of new sensations is independent, stands on its own.
If one attends to each moment of new sensations, regarding anything that went before as "invalidated" by what is new, then thought is experienced as just a series of changing sensations. Same with emotion or anything else. So if anything "upsetting" or unsettling would arise I would stop and just pay attention to the panorama of sensation in continual flow of change. What had been upsetting would become seen as just an area where the sensations were particularly dense and agitated. But by simply experiencing "as sensation" the dense and agitated would soften and expand until melted away. And even when dense and agitated it still wasn't a suffering (though you may use that term differently), as it was just patterns of energy I was experiencing. By shifting to experiencing as simply sensation I had effectively "stripped away all content." (!!)
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| Your story is sticking to you |
[Oct. 22nd, 2010|06:14 am] |
You can't turn either towards Consciousness or away from Consciousness.
In fact, "you" can't even "turn" at all because your life is really only a melodramatic story that Consciousness has been telling Itself.
And your only choice is whether or not you want to believe in the validity of your story.
As usual, the ego wants to proudly say, "That's my story and I'm sticking to it."
Actually, since you and your story arise simultaneously, your story is also sticking to you!
Without the historical framework of your time- based story, though, "you" are really "no-thing."
Actually, being "no-thing" might not be such a bad idea.
– Chuck Hillig |
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| Alone in Enlightenment, by Howdie Mickoski |
[Oct. 19th, 2010|09:38 am] |
In Issue 3966 of the Nonduality Highlights, Jerry Katz presented the following blog entry by a young-looking guy I'd never heard of before named Howard "Howdie" Mickoski. From Howdie's website, it's hard to tell how old he is or where he's from, but he posted some wise words here that Jerry reprinted. Here's a tasty excerpt:Everyone has the constricting belief that enlightenment or God is over "there" somewhere and their job in life is to "find" it. The problem is that we are "here" and will always be "here"- but if enlightenment is over "there", how can it be found? Actually enlightenment/God is also here, always was here, but what it is, is actually not what 99% of seekers really want. Seekers want the enlightenment they have been sold: being happy, important, full of love, no more problems. Like a continuous orgasmic or drug high. That is the reason they are seeking in the first place, the wished for blissful finish line. If anyone really understood what awakening was, no one would want it. Enlightenment is about "alone." A true encounter with the Absolute/God reveals that no one is doing the experiencing, only the absolute revealing itself to the absolute. Nothing exists, yet there i s the appearance of existence. Realization is alone (all-one). But everyone fears alone, so they run to spiritual practice, patterns, lovers, food, booze, any distraction to avoid the only true fear. The fear of no self (often called emptiness) the fear that "I" do not exist. Fear of no self is not the fear of death, but the fear that you as a human being do not exist at all. That is where all the "spiritual groups" get caught, they are looking for what's in it for "them" or "us". Realization is one and alone for there is no other. Everything that tells you that you are separate from a nything else falls away. Thus you are alone, with the appearance of others. The initial glimpse of this is so terrifying to ego it responds with the emotions of meaninglessness and despair. But as soon as the mind falls away, those emotions go too and all that is left is What Is, and the marvelous curiosity about the dream and what is going to happen next.
( read the rest of my excerpt here ) To read the full article on Howdie's site and browse his many others, click here.
Not much particularly new is being expressed here, but I believe it's being expressed quite lucidly. What rang my bell in this excerpt was the sentence, "Suffering is the belief in the story of me." My own personal struggle right now is with my diet and my weight, and despite how wise and spiritual I feel sometimes, I still find myself more often enmeshed in mindless eating habits that keep me terribly unhealthy from a physical perspective. I read passages like these every day, but they obviously don't quite sink in all the way. If these statements are all true, then why I am I still so apparently wrapped up in my own story? Why do I continue to turn my back on the truth of my essential reality? Why, after all the exposure I've given myself to these wonderful teachings, do I act seemingly in opposition to them?
I think that the answer to this probably lies somewhere in the fact that I'm still thinking of myself as a separate "I" with problems to overcome and obstacles to climb over. I'd hazard a guess that when I completely "get" that there is no separate "I," that there is no separate entity to which I can ascribe these qualities, then the worldly behaviour of this so-called "I" will settle down into something more natural.
Augh, what a mind-bender. I think I'll go outside and meditate now. God knows that sitting in front of this computer isn't helping me! :) |
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| Deepak Chopra on the radical teachings of nonduality |
[Oct. 16th, 2010|09:03 am] |
Jerry Katz's edition of Issue #4045 of the Nonduality Highlights includes a really interesting dialogue about nonduality involving Deepak Chopra. Jerry introduces the exchange like this:As nonduality stands on the brink of a presence in major media, let's look at how Deepak Chopra addresses a question about why he has held back on delivering the full teaching of nonduality. The bottom line may be strictly commercial. However, ask yourself whether the times are a-changing and whether major media can absorb the full and diverse teaching of nonduality. These are interesting questions. Certainly, the concept and discussion of nonduality is becoming more prevalent on the internet: dozens, if not hundreds, of individual seekers have created blogs and other forums which outline their expanding awareness and insights into nondual reality. Googling the word "nonduality" in 1997, when Jerry Katz first initiated Nonduality.com, yielded nearly nothing on the topic. Now, it yields 83,500 results.
In all of the higher levels of attainment possible in the major contemplative spiritual traditions, there has traditionally been a certain guru-disciple relationship and a particular path that is followed in order to attain enlightenment. (Now of course, in radical nonduality you learn that there is no separate self and therefore nobody to attain that enlightenment; however, the apparent self in the form of the physical body-mind does seem to be drawn towards the state in some cases.) The impetus for this guru-disciple relationship is that full realization of nondual reality can be a bit mind-blowing, to say the least, and can easily have the effect of either making you question your very existence, or else making you drop responsibility for your thinking and your actions because there's no individual self anyway. There are other ways that someone with insufficiently mature spiritual and moral foundations can interpret the most radical teachings, but that gives an idea. And furthermore, the most radical teachings are usually incomprehensible to most laypeople anyway.
I say all this as preamble to the exchange I'm about to quote with Deepak Chopra in relation to Jerry's initial question above: Are the major media, and by extension, the broad general public, ready to absorb the full teaching of nonduality? As much as I might like to think so and as much as I think that the ground is becoming increasingly ripe for it, I'm inclined to say "not yet." I don't believe that lay practitioners or lightly-interested parties can really soak up the deepest insights available from nondual teachings. Without some sort of pre-existing insight or well-grounded spiritual practice which has trained the mind at least partially to reside in stillness and not to be completely enmeshed in the stories of our individual personalities, I don't think that the radical teachings of nonduality are too helpful.
Having said all that, I do believe that the most lucid and poetic expressions of nondual insight can have profound, awakening effects on absolutely anybody who reads them, if the reader is sufficiently self-aware and open-minded. I also believe that the solution to all of the world's various problems, no matter how seemingly intractable, can be found by viewing those problems through the prism of nondual reality. So for those reasons, I would hope that the insights derived from nondual teachings can indeed be more widely disseminated and shared in the coming years, and I hope against hope that these insights may help to lead some people towards developing more impactful solutions to those problems -- even if only the smallest personal ones. Of course, it really doesn't matter one way or the other if that happens, it's just that I feel a pull towards that kind of thing "myself."
I'm going to excerpt from the excerpt below, but the full question and answer from Deepak Chopra can be found here.( Read my reduction of the exchange with Deepak here ) |
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